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	<title>Comments on: Republican Party Convention 2008 - No Integrity</title>
	<link>http://www.thefreesavage.com/2008/06/03/republican-party-convention-2008-no-integrity/</link>
	<description>Commentary on Our Brave New Utopia</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 06:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Aric</title>
		<link>http://www.thefreesavage.com/2008/06/03/republican-party-convention-2008-no-integrity/#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator>Aric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was an excellent speech by Dr. Paul. He made a lot of good points. It was also great to hear him talk about how he sees himself and his role. 

I'm sorry to hear about what happened at the convention; it sounds like the Republican party is going to go through a rough period. I hope you succeed at bringing small government and liberty back as the party's core values. 

Now for some unsolicited advice to the Ron Paul revolution. It is very easy for libertarians to come across as a mix of millionaires complaining about how hard the government is making their lives, kids rebelling against authority, and too-idealistic thinking. After 20? years of Ron Paul being an example in congress he says the only thing that got people's attention is raising so much money. I am encouraged by the amount of enthusiastic support he received, but as the movement exists I can see it growing to twice it's current size at most. That is not enough to make it mainstream for Republicans, let alone the country. 

Small government, personal responsibility, obeying the constitution, etc. are all principles that I am hopeful a majority of Americans will believe it, but it is too much to insist that total liberty is the best solution to every problem that humans will ever face. Intellectual maturity requires admitting that one does not have all the answers.

Another type of immaturity is also present in some libertarians: the "You can't tell me what to do." attitude. There is a lot of immaturity in all political parties but this one is easier to spot and it gives others an excuse not to listen you what you have to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was an excellent speech by Dr. Paul. He made a lot of good points. It was also great to hear him talk about how he sees himself and his role. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry to hear about what happened at the convention; it sounds like the Republican party is going to go through a rough period. I hope you succeed at bringing small government and liberty back as the party&#8217;s core values. </p>
<p>Now for some unsolicited advice to the Ron Paul revolution. It is very easy for libertarians to come across as a mix of millionaires complaining about how hard the government is making their lives, kids rebelling against authority, and too-idealistic thinking. After 20? years of Ron Paul being an example in congress he says the only thing that got people&#8217;s attention is raising so much money. I am encouraged by the amount of enthusiastic support he received, but as the movement exists I can see it growing to twice it&#8217;s current size at most. That is not enough to make it mainstream for Republicans, let alone the country. </p>
<p>Small government, personal responsibility, obeying the constitution, etc. are all principles that I am hopeful a majority of Americans will believe it, but it is too much to insist that total liberty is the best solution to every problem that humans will ever face. Intellectual maturity requires admitting that one does not have all the answers.</p>
<p>Another type of immaturity is also present in some libertarians: the &#8220;You can&#8217;t tell me what to do.&#8221; attitude. There is a lot of immaturity in all political parties but this one is easier to spot and it gives others an excuse not to listen you what you have to say.</p>
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		<title>By: έχω ζωη (Echo Zoe) &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Death of a Party: More on the Convention</title>
		<link>http://www.thefreesavage.com/2008/06/03/republican-party-convention-2008-no-integrity/#comment-157</link>
		<dc:creator>έχω ζωη (Echo Zoe) &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Death of a Party: More on the Convention</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The Free Savage: Republican Party Convention 2008 - No integrity [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://www.thefreesavage.com/2008/06/03/republican-party-convention-2008-no-integrity/#comment-154</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 00:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In principle you are absolutely correct about what happened.  My count on the national delegate ballot had about 25 delegates.  But only 7 of the 14 from the organized grass roots delegates were on the ballot.  The alternate ballot may be what you were thinking of...it had only 17 by my recollection and only 1 of the grass roots coalition candidates was on there.  Requiring people to vote for 14, ensured the 'Conservative Team' would win 11 alternate slots and heavily weight the delegate vote in favor of the establishment.

Here is my take:  I cannot serve in good conscience as a simple participant in the Minnesota Republican Party.  I will actively serve in efforts to overturn the current leadership.  As a Christian, I was most embarrassed when Ron Carey spoke about how godly the opening of the conventions were. He also gave an evangelical confession of faith that would be accepted by virtually all evangelical Christians.  His actions though did not accord with a Christian testimony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In principle you are absolutely correct about what happened.  My count on the national delegate ballot had about 25 delegates.  But only 7 of the 14 from the organized grass roots delegates were on the ballot.  The alternate ballot may be what you were thinking of&#8230;it had only 17 by my recollection and only 1 of the grass roots coalition candidates was on there.  Requiring people to vote for 14, ensured the &#8216;Conservative Team&#8217; would win 11 alternate slots and heavily weight the delegate vote in favor of the establishment.</p>
<p>Here is my take:  I cannot serve in good conscience as a simple participant in the Minnesota Republican Party.  I will actively serve in efforts to overturn the current leadership.  As a Christian, I was most embarrassed when Ron Carey spoke about how godly the opening of the conventions were. He also gave an evangelical confession of faith that would be accepted by virtually all evangelical Christians.  His actions though did not accord with a Christian testimony.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.thefreesavage.com/2008/06/03/republican-party-convention-2008-no-integrity/#comment-152</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I was at least in a state that had some controversy to be involved in. My state (VA) just rolled over for McCain. Funny, of all the people I taked to and debated, not one of them was an ardent McCain supporter. They mostly just made excuses as to why you should vote for him. If the Rebuplicans continue this nonsense I will caucus with the Libertarians(capital L).
Bob Barr 2008</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I was at least in a state that had some controversy to be involved in. My state (VA) just rolled over for McCain. Funny, of all the people I taked to and debated, not one of them was an ardent McCain supporter. They mostly just made excuses as to why you should vote for him. If the Rebuplicans continue this nonsense I will caucus with the Libertarians(capital L).<br />
Bob Barr 2008</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
		<link>http://www.thefreesavage.com/2008/06/03/republican-party-convention-2008-no-integrity/#comment-151</link>
		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 05:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thefreesavage.com/2008/06/03/republican-party-convention-2008-no-integrity/#comment-151</guid>
		<description>Joe Repya for state party chair!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Repya for state party chair!</p>
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		<title>By: MrsSarb</title>
		<link>http://www.thefreesavage.com/2008/06/03/republican-party-convention-2008-no-integrity/#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator>MrsSarb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 05:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You stated exactly what happened and you stated it very well.  I know you are jaded and bitter by what you have seen.  Unfortunately I have known without having witnessed it for myself that this is what we are all up against in this country in today's world.  I've decided I personally cannot give up.  For me to give up is to give up on everything I hold to be fair and just in our world and therefore that would be equivalent to selling my soul.  Many, many of the "old school rank and file Republicans" just looked at me with apologetic looks in their eyes as they watched all of this unfold.  I was outraged at what was happening.  I saw all of the same things.  My first instinct was to get mad and walk out to never return again.  Fortunately my outrage encouraged me to come back and fight more.  I believe that many people were able to see the true colors of this group for what it was.  What I truly did not comprehend was why everyone is so incredibly threatened by Dr. Paul.  Is he truly THAT threatening to the establishment that he cannot be brought in out of the elements even?  I could not help but to think to myself that this is exactly how Jesus was treated in his time.  He was scorned and belittled and cast out by the elite and all simply for speaking a message of hope and peace and throwing the money handlers out of the temple.  To me it seemed rather ironic that the Republican party considers itself to be a part of the religious right when I could see the very same behaviors that I read about in my Bible.  Dr. Paul is a good man who should be treated with honor and dignity.  I know that God smiled on him that day.  I know it in my heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You stated exactly what happened and you stated it very well.  I know you are jaded and bitter by what you have seen.  Unfortunately I have known without having witnessed it for myself that this is what we are all up against in this country in today&#8217;s world.  I&#8217;ve decided I personally cannot give up.  For me to give up is to give up on everything I hold to be fair and just in our world and therefore that would be equivalent to selling my soul.  Many, many of the &#8220;old school rank and file Republicans&#8221; just looked at me with apologetic looks in their eyes as they watched all of this unfold.  I was outraged at what was happening.  I saw all of the same things.  My first instinct was to get mad and walk out to never return again.  Fortunately my outrage encouraged me to come back and fight more.  I believe that many people were able to see the true colors of this group for what it was.  What I truly did not comprehend was why everyone is so incredibly threatened by Dr. Paul.  Is he truly THAT threatening to the establishment that he cannot be brought in out of the elements even?  I could not help but to think to myself that this is exactly how Jesus was treated in his time.  He was scorned and belittled and cast out by the elite and all simply for speaking a message of hope and peace and throwing the money handlers out of the temple.  To me it seemed rather ironic that the Republican party considers itself to be a part of the religious right when I could see the very same behaviors that I read about in my Bible.  Dr. Paul is a good man who should be treated with honor and dignity.  I know that God smiled on him that day.  I know it in my heart.</p>
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